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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 1, 2008 0:44:11 GMT -6
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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 17, 2008 21:30:16 GMT -6
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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 17, 2008 21:30:56 GMT -6
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Breaking News -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a story! www.nbc5.com/news/15371585/detail.html BREAKING NEWS: Autopsy Finds Peterson's 3rd Wife Is Homicide Victim POSTED: 5:33 pm CST February 21, 2008 UPDATED: 5:39 pm CST February 21, 2008 CHICAGO -- A pathologist has determined that Kathleen Savio, the third wife of Drew Peterson, was the victim of a homicide. Savio's body was exhumed in November after Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared and questions arose about Savio's death. Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow made the announcement in a Thursday press release. Dr. Larry W. Blum, the forensic pathologist who performed the autopsy, concluded that the actual cause of Kathleen Savio’s death was drowning and that the legal manner of death was homicide, according to a press release from Glasgow's office. Blum's report was delivered to the Will County Coroner's Office on Thursday and immediately forwarded to the Will County State's Attorney's Office and the Illinois State Police, the release said. "Dr. Blum's forensic report renders his expert opinion that this is a homicide," Glasgow said in the release. "We have been investigating this as a murder since reopening the case in November of last year. We now have a scientific basis to formally and publicly classify it as such." Savio's body was found in a bathtub in her home in 2004. Initially, her death was ruled accidental. No charges have been filed in Savio's death. |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 17, 2008 21:31:16 GMT -6
Drew Peterson said this evening that he was “shocked†by the results. “You’re kidding me. Unbelievable. That’s hard to believe. I’m shocked,†said Peterson, a former Bolingbrook Police sergeant. www.suntimes.com/news/metro/807193,022108savio.article |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 17, 2008 21:32:53 GMT -6
COMMENT BY INKY
I forgot this>>>>
It is also a known fact that Stacy was Drew's alibi for night of Kathleen's death! (She told her Preacher this before she disappeared).
It is also a known fact that Stacy slept on Kathleen's and Drew bed they had when married. (They took Kathleen's bedroom suit they day of Kathleen's funeral).
Stacy is not all innocent in this...No one deserves being murdered.
But, we need take our blinders off and stop sugar coating all this.
Always two (3 in this case) sides to every story...and I am seeing the two (3) sides.
Sorry, Helen...but I can't give Stacy the benefit of the doubt in all this.
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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 20, 2008 0:57:02 GMT -6
Item 1 www.nbc5.com/politics/10281761/detail.html Tomczak Gets Nearly 4 Years In Prison Judge: Convict's Avarice Betrayed Public's Trust CHICAGO -- The former Chicago water department boss who admitted pocketing nearly $400,000 in payoffs was sentenced Thursday to almost four years in prison by a judge who said he "betrayed the public trust." With his son, former Will County States Attorney Jeff Tomczak, at his side, 72-year-old Donald Tomczak faced his future in a plea bargain that gets him 47 months in prison for racketeering, conspiracy and filing a false tax return. Tomczak's attorney, Patrick Cotter, told Der-Yeghiayan that his client was a product of "the old Chicago that had its own rules and he understood those rules and lived by those rules." "Mr. Tomczak paid the price for not changing with the times," Cotter said. He said prison will be hard for a man "in the autumn of his life." (b.s) "Some people figured out times had changed," said Cotter. "He did things the way they did for 60 or 70 years." (at least) Item 2 http://colbyfiles.blogs.f...s-kathleen-savio-exhumed/ "I’m also being told for the first time today that the Illinois State Police visited the previous State’s Attorney Jeff Tomczak within days of Savio’s death in 2004 “seeking guidanceâ€. I’ve also learned that Tomczak’s file on the case is slim…there is very little paperwork available on that meeting with police or whatever investigation previous State’s Attorney Jeff Tomczak conducted. Why is that? One source suggests Drew Peterson may have had “connections†that limited the scope but I see no concrete proof of that." www.jefftomczak.com/biography.html …was a member of the Family Violence Coordinating Council however no action was taken by his Office in the case of Kathleen Savio ! www.nwherald.com/a...734a5c4dff04770349063.txt Jeff Tomczak — the state’s attorney when domestic violence charges were filed against Savio and when she died — did not return a call for comment to his law firm. |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on Apr 20, 2008 1:15:05 GMT -6
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:54:11 GMT -6
STEVE C. DID NOT FIND THE BODY OF KATHLEEN... he in no way was the first person in, i cannot say who it was, but trust me, he knows he is lying and nobody has stepped up to prove it and shut him up. here's why he's lying to help DP
steve used to have a problem, and he probably still has this problem... it's called gambling. a couple years back steve was in a huge bind and almost lost everything he owned... guess which infamous former police sergeant helped steve get rid of his problems and guess who steve is now helping to get rid of their problems
I'm now wondering if this isn't true.
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:56:12 GMT -6
11-02-2007 03:37 AM, posted by "CAT TOY", Senior Member Registered: Jun 2007, Location: madelmccann.blogspot.com/, Posts: 5688 "I am writing what I'm hearing on Greta In the days and weeks leading up to Kittys' death she divorced she felt sorry for stacy; she was pregnant and he wanted to marry her before child was born; put off property settlement until later she agreed to it; and two weeks before settlement she was found dead in bathtub. StgP called her at 1am and said he had "really bad news" kitty was dead. He said she drowned in bathtub; and they went right over. DC says that it was an accident. No drugs no alcohol, oval corner bathtub; small; she was tall; how did she scrunch down under water? She had water in her nasal cavities but she was trying to breathe they said. Tub is too small to drown in ; thinks she had some "help" as she put it. Says husband knows more than he is telling. 1mil dollar policy; thought it was drew but it was changed to the two boys just prior to her death. He said he was going to kill her so she changed the policy just before she was killed! *chilling*" [11/02/2007 boards.courttv.com/] |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:56:25 GMT -6
As posted at acandyrose...
2004-03-01 00:00
Drew Peterson was returning two sons on weekend visitation discovered his third wife dead
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Will County Coroner Patrick K. O'Neil
Death accidental Suffered blunt trauma, lacerated scalp, injuries consistent with a fall, drowned in bathtub "[Kathleen] Savio, Peterson's third wife, died under mysterious circumstances in March 2004 soon after they divorced. Her body was discovered after Peterson attempted to return their two sons from a weekend visitation. No one answered the locked door and Peterson, who lived down the street from Savio with his new wife Stacy, sought help from a neighbor. The neighbor called a locksmith, and once entry was gained, went inside to find Savio's body in a waterless bathtub. The ensuing investigation revealed Savio drowned. The water in the bathtub may have drained out over time, investigators speculated. A coroner's [Will County Coroner Patrick K. O'Neil] jury ruled the death accidental. The state police investigation yielded no criminal charges. "Nobody looked at my sister's case close enough," Doman [Anna Marie Doman, the sister of Peterson's previous wife, Kathleen Savio] said. "I never got a call back (from police). It was like they couldn't be bothered."
[11/01/2007 Headline: "POLICE SEIZE EVIDENCE FROM PETERSON HOME"]
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:57:08 GMT -6
Transcript below was done by www.acandyrose.com of the November 13, 2007 Greta Van Susteren of Fox News evesdropping audio with Ric Mims (Runtime of original audio file is 12:54 minutes) ~ ~ ~ ~ Suspicions regarding one member of the Kathleen Savio Coroner's Jury panel ~ ~ ~ ~ GRETA: Which one, you mean the Coroner's thing? MIMS: Yeah for Kathy, yeah and there's like six people who decide if it's accidental or homicide or sign off on it. GRETA: Right. MIMS: Well one of the ladies who signed off on is named, her last name matches the same as a Bolingbrook cop and I know there are reports that there was a Bolingbrook police officer on the inquiry board but with the signatures that I've received from A and W, you can't read the last three names on there and one of them was like a thingyleeono (sp?) or something like that but the one we are looking at is one of the female names on there with the last name is the same as a friend of his that's a Bolingbrook cop. GRETA: I see, well alright, we're going to continue to look into this and I thank you again for doing the Greta Cast. Can we call you back tomorrow? MIMS: Yes Greta you can call me anytime and anything I can do to help you let me know. GRETA: Alright, well I can tell you, the readers of GretaWire are very interested and they like to eavesdrop on these conversations so the, they're interesting in it, you can tell by all the comments on it. MIMS: I've been on Greta Blog almost everyday. GRETA: Good, I'm glad you're a regular reader, I'll call you tomorrow. MIMS: Okay. GRETA: Thank you Ric, this will be posted in about an hour. MIMS: Okay. GRETA: Thanks bye. END OF TRANSCRIPT OF GRETA CAST AUDIO FILE |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:57:29 GMT -6
From Greta OTR...
WALTER LEE JAMES, JUROR AT SAVIO CORONER'S INQUEST: We were given evidence and photographs by the coroner at the time, and we were asked to review them and come to a conclusion as to the cause of death." - "We heard from a couple of the relatives. They came in prior to our reviewing the evidence. But they left the room, and then we were left to review the evidence at hand." - "we were only told to review the evidence at hand, and when we were through reviewing the evidence, come to a conclusion and then call the coroner in and tell him that we reached a conclusion." - "in reviewing the evidence at hand, we did decide that it was an accident due to the fact that we were laypeople and were not medical examiners or anything like that. So with the evidence that we had, we determined it wasn't natural, of course, and we � also being laypeople, we could not decide whether it was a homicide"
"at the time, we were given three options to either come to a decision as to whether it was natural, homicide or accidental. We did not have at the time the option of determining "undetermined" status." - "there was a police officer on the panel, and he indicated at the time he knew or knew of Peterson. And he indicated to the panel that he thought that Peterson was a good policeman. He was charitable and helped his neighbors, and so on and so forth. So I think that � I think that might have influenced some of the panel members, but I don't know that for sure." - "I was kind of apprehensive with one photograph showing her face down in an empty tub. And there was a lot of blood remaining in the tub, and I just � I didn't � myself did not consider � it was inconsistent with drowning. I feel that the blood that was in the tub should have probably dissipated into the water and drained out with the water. But like I said, I'm not an expert forensic person, so as a layperson, that's just how I felt."
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:57:43 GMT -6
From Greta OTR...
DR. MICHAEL BADEN, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Yes. Yes, speaking to Kathleen's father, who was next to me, and the rest of the family and going over what their concerns were and what they wanted to learn from the autopsy and how I was going to proceed.
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DR. MICHAEL BADEN: "Well, what I had learned was that the family had certain concerns because the way that Kathleen was in the bathtub and that she hadn't been heard from for some 36 hours before she � before the body was discovered, that her habit was to take off her jewelry and put her in her up before she took a bath, which wasn't done that time. So they had certain concerns that there were suspicious things in that bathtub."
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"DR. MICHAEL BADEN: "There were five Illinois State Troopers who came down. One of them took photographs, took notes. We exchanged some information. There was a coroner, an administrative coroner, who was there, very helpful. We went over the X-rays."
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"DR. MICHAEL BADEN: "And it was a big, very nice autopsy room. They do about 500 autopsies a year in that room, so it's not a small operation. And when the autopsy was done two days ago, about 13 X-rays were taken, which I was able to review. They have an X-ray view box. They had the X-rays. No fractures. And when I did the examination, there were no fractures on the body."
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"DR. MICHAEL BADEN: "To a reasonable degree of medical certainty is the standard we usually use. It's my opinion to a reasonable degree of medical certainty that it's a homicide, and that's what I would have put down on the death certificate."
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:57:58 GMT -6
From Chicago Tribune 2007 Nov 22....
"They believe they have records that prove he was abusive. Kathleen Savio's family showed our sister station WGNTV documents. They include a photo of a brused photo of Savio and a copy of an anonymous letter she received telling her her husband was having an affair with a then 17 year old Stacy Peterson. Savio's body was found in a bathtub in 2004. Her death was ruled an accident but authorities recently exhumed her body to take a second look at the case and an independent medical examiner determined she was murdered. Peterson maintains he had nothing to do with Savio's death."
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:58:15 GMT -6
From Greta: OTR
Greta: Stacy was Drew's alibi when Kathleen died BUT Stacy told Pastor Neil Schori that Drew wasn't there and she kept trying to call him on the phone.
Fuhrman:
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"There was not one search warrant written" ILL MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: "Well, what's interesting � I have a source that actually told me that when Stacy actually confided in the pastor, she made a statement that she woke up in the middle of the night, she could not find Drew. And this was the night before Kathleen is found in the bathtub. And she can't find him in the house, and she starts calling incessantly, numerous times, to try to get a hold of him. He never answers. Now, that day that they actually talk to Stacy and Drew and the neighbors, when they find Kathleen, they get information that is an alibi, and that alibi is something that Stacy provides for Drew."
Fuhrman:
"They supposedly told the coroner's inquest jury that they had phone records"
"Now, the Illinois State Police agents that are [were ?] working on this, the detectives, they supposedly told the coroner's inquest jury that they had phone records, but they were not � they had not yet received them as of May 1 [2004]. And of course, we know Kathleen Savio died March 1 [2004]. And in that � in those documents � in that testimony and in those documents, it states that, Well, we don't believe that those phone records will give us any other outcome. Well, I started doing some research. Well, first, we know Drew Peterson and Stacy had Nextel. They keep those records for five years, luckily. But I cannot find anything at the county courthouse. I checked with them. There was no search warrants served in the name of Kathy Savio, Drew Peterson or Stacy Peterson in the year 2004."
Hardy testified in the 2004 inquest that they were waiting for phone records but no records were ordered
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: "And I should tell the viewers that after you called me with this � and frankly, I missed it, and I thought it was extraordinary - - good work, Mark � but we went back and looked at the transcript from the coroner's jury, the one from May 1. And just so that the viewers know, is that the Illinois State Police, Herbert Hardy, was testifying, and he says, in part, "The only thing we're waiting for now is some phone records, to find out if certain phone calls were made when they said they were made." - "There's another part where even a coroner's juror member said to the witness, to the Illinois State Police witness, "Are they verifying the phone records, correct, that the calls were made?" The witness, "Yes, those take quite a while to get. So yes, we've got phone records coming from her phone, his phone, Steve's phone and the rest of it. So yes, we still have to verify that."
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:58:30 GMT -6
From Nancy Grace Show 2007December 13,...
Dr. Makary explains Kathleen had air in her lungs which indicates a struggle when she drowned in the bathtub ILL DR. MARTY MAKARY, PHYSICIAN: "But what we do know is that there was clearly air in the lungs. And any time there`s air in the lungs and a drowning, that means that the epiglottis has spasmed. There was a struggle. And water was not able to get through that valve. So that is a very important finding that we know about." - PAT LALAMA (HOST): I just want to go back to Dr. Marty Makary. You said something really that caught all of us, and that was that there was air in the lungs. Now what could that signify, a struggle or that she was in the water, then out of the water, then back in the water? Tell us lay folk. - MAKARY: "Well, that`s a good point you raise here. When there is a struggle, when there is wrestling, when there is a gasping for air, a true struggle, then the epiglottis will spasm, and that acts as a valve and air will not enter the lungs. That is why bodies float when somebody dies. And that indicates that there was not a sudden heart attack or a stroke or a bruise or a fall which led to the drowning"
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:58:43 GMT -6
Asked this elsewhere, but does anyone know when Kathleen & Drew had their first child? Looking at this report from the Hinsdale Hospital Emergency room, it appears thatKathleen was pregnant or recently gave birth at the time of abuse by Drew: www.amw.com/pdf/petersonemergency.pdfThe report shows she was taking prenatal vitamins and that her L(ast)M(ensrtrual)P(eriod) was 4/28/93 which usually indicates that a woman is pregnant? But it also states: Delivered 4mos age So, did they already have a 4 month-old at the time of this assault? |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:59:12 GMT -6
I transcribed this section of the audio file from GretaWire Blog Site where the OTR producer (Steph) is reading the ambulance report to Greta over the phone. ============================= November 23rd, 2007 4:42 PM Eastern, GretaCast - OTR PRODUCER GETS AMBULANCE REPORT! LISTEN HERE!!!, by Greta Van Susteren - (acandyrose.com HERE listening to audio file:"Report: "Dispatched to the above for signs of life, upon arrival met by PD officer stated response for well being check, (Steph: "that's interesting") and found the patient unresponsive in the tub. Heard PD and neighbors last seen Saturday evening. On assessment, found patient on left side in bathtub with wet hair and molting and pooling to the right shoulder and left elbow. Blood dried and coagulated on bottom of tub. Patient cold to touch. Placed on EEG on (can't understand)." (Steph: "Baden's looking at that.") And it's got, "turned over to PD", that PD officer would have been Drew Peterson because at that time there was no police there and the well being check doesn't go with the story we've told. He [Baden] also thought it was interesting that there was dried and coagulated blood in the bottom of the tub so Dr. Baden has a copy of this and he's looking over that now and he's going to talk about it on the show tonight. I'm working on getting the crime scene photos to Baden because he would like to look at them for his final report on his autopsy that he did for the family." ============================= This is where the audio file was originally if anybody wants to download it. gretawire.foxnews.com/page/9/ ACR « Last Edit: Jan 10, 2008, 12:12am by acandyrose » |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:59:26 GMT -6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More goodies for this thread =============================== cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.564233.html11/08/2007 Mike Puccinelli (cbs2chicago.com) Reporting (VIDEO): "Coroner reviews study of Cop's 3rd Wife's Death" "Today officials released a document relating to the death of his 3rd wife. It�s 28 page transcript of an inquest where Kathleen Savio's family believes Drew Peterson got away with murder." - "The only police officer called to testify that day about that possibility, saying quote, CORONER: "Any signs of a struggle noted at the scene?" or defense wounds?" - POLICE OFFICER: "No, there was not" - CORONER: "Any signs of a struggle or defense wounds?" - POLICE OFFICER: "No, there was not." - "But the report also notes that the police officer was never at the death scene and was not present for the autopsy where eight separate injuries were noted on Savio's body." =============================== I tried to get a screen capture of the signatures of the Coroner's Jury that flashed on the video above. It's not the best but maybe some of you can make out the names. My eyes are just not that good. www.acandyrose.com/Stacy_Peterson_File-297-2004inquest.jpgI really like watching these little videos that are online because they seem to include a tidbit here and there that doesn't appear in the online print versions of the news. This one below is an example. JMO but I really think whichever former juror that was who was quoted was totally out of line to make this comment. =============================== cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.564233.html11/08/2007 Mike Puccinelli (cbs2chicago.com) Reporting (VIDEO): "Coroner reviews study of Cop's 3rd Wife's Death" "If the coroner's jury says it's an accident and the pathologist who performed the autopsy says it's not an accident, the State's Attorney has every right to forget and disregard what the coroner's jury has to say" [said CBS 2's legal expert Irv Miller.] PUCCINELLI: "Now the States Attorney in office at the time [2004] chose not to file charges. I spoke with two jury members this evening and neither one wanted to go on camera, but one told me, quote, "I don't think Drew had anything to do with Kathleen's death or Stacy's disappearance. I think Stacy is a kid who ran away." end quote. Drew Peterson has not been declared a suspect in the disappearance of Stacy Peterson or in the death of Kathleen Savio." =============================== ACR |
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Post by Lorie Taylor on May 13, 2008 23:59:38 GMT -6
PUCCINELLI: "Now the States Attorney in office at the time [2004] chose not to file charges. I spoke with two jury members this evening and neither one wanted to go on camera, but one told me, quote, "I don't think Drew had anything to do with Kathleen's death or Stacy's disappearance. I think Stacy is a kid who ran away." end quote.
Hmmm, OYE. Thanks ACR. Interesting.
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why killer murdered of Kathleen and Stacey An Cales Peterson